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Hi everyone, and welcome to your favorite segment Global Village. 欢迎回来【小酒馆·大世界】.

We have a new guest in the studio today. Stephanie is a nutritionist from New Zealand currently working for Sanitarium in Australia. Sanitarium is a company with 120 years of history in providing healthy food products and quality plant-based nutrition to the general public.

Welcome to the show, Stephanie.

Thank you, Lulu.

First of all, could you give us a brief introduction of your background?

Yeah, of course. So like you say, I'm a New Zealander, so a kiwi, currently living in Australia. So I grew up in New Zealand on a farm actually, in the South Island, and an area called McKenna.

So I've got three amazing siblings and mom and dad, and went to university in New Zealand as well. So did my undergraduate there in a place called Dunedin. I did my postgrad at Massey university in the North Island. And coming to the end of my study, I apply for a job at Sanitarium. And I remember...

Can I just jump in?You said you did your bachelor's degree, your master's degree both in nutrition? I don't know how you call it, nutrition science or food science.

So I actually… my undergrad’s, my bachelor’s, I did a double major, so I did human nutrition, and then I also did food science, so that two separate degrees.

I started out doing food science, and then I picked up nutrition paper, and fell in love with nutrition, so ended up doing both. Because my true kind of passion was nutrition, so I carried on with nutrition into the postgrad diploma with Massey.

Ok, that nutrition is… definitely sounds like your passion, but what does your work at Sanitarium actually involve, I mean I’m a total dummy when it comes to nutrition expert,what I think is always I'm as a customer will go to a nutritionist like you,and say, could you give me some guidance on how I can eat healthier, so I can lose weight, is that the sort of thing you do?

Great question, because people definitely think like automatically think that's what a nutritionist does even in food industry. We do have a service where we offer on the public to writing to us, or emailing to us, or phone us and ask us whatever nutrition questions they like.

But our main role as a team is to keep up to date with the nutrition science, and communicate and trains like they’re across our business. We work mainly with two teams, so we have our marketing teams, so we work quite closely with them; and then we also have innovation team that is made up of a whole range of food scientists. So we work closely with those food scientists as well.

Does that mean that the food scientists they are the lab people, and you guys are more the researchers, you do more research.

Yes, exactly. So a lot of people ask me that question as well. They think I say nutritionists, and they kind of see someone in a white lab coat.

Yeah, exactly.

In the lab. But no, that's not what we do. We definitely do that sometimes, and we'll go…we might go and taste a product that our food scientist has been working on. But we don't do that. That's our food science team. So I could have done that because I did food science background, but with the nutrition way in the end.

And I would imagine since I mean Sanitarium makes a lot of these healthy food products, these recipes so that's jointly developed by food scientists and you guys right nutritionists.

Yeah absolutely, like health and wellbeing is foundation to our business. It's at the core of what we do. So we actually have, I think it's about, ten dietitians and nutritionist working for the company. You're exactly right, we help our food scientists, so the guys that create and develop these products, we help them from a nutrition point of view, creating and developing food products, which is a lot of fun in very areas.

And talking about the food products that you guys make, one of the things, we actually also carry in our store with, and it's very very popular, it's called Nutri-Brex, it's a healthy cereal, that is one of your main products, right?

Yes, it is. I'm very lucky to be able to work on the cereals.

Great. So I'm definitely asking the right person. Because cereal这种五谷早餐或者叫杂粮早餐, it's not really a Chinese thing, because that's not in our traditional diet. It is getting more popular to eat cereal in China, especially in big cities among younger people. But it seems like in the West, it's already a standard part of people's breakfast. It's like for, the majority of people, but why is it so popular as a breakfast choice?

Yeah. Great question. Our diet the guide lines here, in Australia in New Zealand includes a core food group around grains and whole grains make up, are the foundations of the breakfast cereal category.

So whole grains are made into these breakfast cereals or some breakfast cereals. And whole grains have a lot of health attributes, health benefits. They provide us with fiber, essential vitamins, and minerals. So they are really important a food group or food as part of the New Zealand and Australian diet. So that is probably why we eat a lot of cereal in both countries.

Yeah, but it's very interesting because, obviously according to your expert opinion, cereal is a healthy breakfast choice with whole grains and all that. But a lot of the cereals we see in a market like, for example I see in China or in other countries, are just so sweet, and then when I'm eating them I feel like there's so much sugar in this. This just can't be the healthy choice for breakfast.

So definitely take a look at the product package, and start to familiarize yourself with the ingredients list and the nutrition information panel, because this tells you a lot about what's in the product, and you want to be choosing a product does have lower sugar and more whole grains and more fiber.

You've just got to be smart about your choices, and just educate yourself a little bit on those higher whole grain, lower sugar products.

Because you're right, there are some out there to have quite a substantial amount of sugar in them.

Yeah, then that defeats the whole purpose. You’re eating cereal, try to be healthy, and you have all these added sugar, sort of cancels out the effect.

Yeah, exactly so Nutri-Brex for example I think it's about 1/5 of a teaspoon of sugar in a serving, you know we add a little bit of sugar and salt the product literally so we can make the form, like make the cereal into the biscuit shape that it is.

So that's around functionality, and of course provides a little bit of taste. Nutri-Brex contains 97% whole grains. So it's a really high whole grain product. It's a great option in that regards. It's really a breakfast cereal that is championing that core food group of the category and that's whole grains.

Another question I have is that, in China we don't have the habit of eating something cold for breakfast. I think that's why a lot of people don't like the idea of cereal because they think of cereal is something that you can only use icy cold milk from the fridge, or yogurt. They're like this is just not suiting my stomach.

I think Aussies and Kiwis do love cold milk with their cereals. But there are also like we eat cereal in a range of different ways, so some people do have hot water, that sounds a bit weird, hot water on the Nutri-Brex, warm milk, so you can warm the milk up and have it with your Nutri-Brex.

So we see that is a bit more popular during the colder months. So during winter we definitely have people wanting warmer recipes there use our cereals.

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea, I mean if people can eat if it can be eaten with warm milk, in a more like a warm recipe, I think it'll be more popular. I think that's the thing that's what we're used to, definitely.

Yeah, here people top up with different foods as well. So we have the whole grain base which is the cereal and your warm milk, and then you can have slice banana or any fruit in the nuts and seeds that people may like. So it's really versatile, and there's lots of different ways you can eat it.

Great. Maybe you can also provide some of the recipes, I'm sure your brand already does on your websites.

Yeah, we've got lots of different creative ways of eating your breakfast cereal.

Okay. Sounds great.

Now talking about healthy eating since you were mentioning how Aussies and Kiwis are eating their breakfast, you have experience of living in both Australia and New Zealand. How would you characterize the average diet of people living there?

Because when I think of Australians, at least Australians, because I’ve been to Sydney before, and then in Sydney you just picture all these ultra-fit people running next to the harbor, and you think all this is a country that really likes healthy living, and also surfer culture. So it's all these really fit people. Would you say this is the majority or a minority?

Ha ha...Good question. So it's quite crazy that overweight and obesity prevalence across New Zealand, Australia is actually very high; but it's in like pockets. It's in different areas of the countries. So for example in Australia, major cities, it's less prevalent than regional areas, and it also varies across ethnic groups in New Zealand, and in Australia as well. But overall, over weigh and obesity is 2/3 of the population.

So that's really surprising.

And the diets are quite similar from what I've seen in Australia and New Zealand, like how we’re eating, and the foods we eat, we have similar restaurants, similar foods in the supermarkets. And I suppose it's showing the fact that we have similar obesity and overweight prevalence.

And then if you look into the national kind of house surveys that we do across Australia and New Zealand, that tells us information as to, ok, that make sense that we're not that healthy as countries.

So for example, here in Australia, about half of us ate the recommended serves of fruit per day, less than 4% of the population eat the amount of vegetables and legumes and beans that we should be having.

It's very very low.

Whole grains, I think it's about 70% of adults not meeting the recommended whole grain intake.

But do you think kids growing up in Australia, New Zealand, did they get educated?Did they get informed with this sort of idea of what is a healthy diet in school?Is that a mandatory thing?

I think that there's a little bit of that does go on, and they are definitely trying to do more of that New Zealand and Australia. I remember when I was a kid, we definitely had that as part of our curriculum. And because it is such an issue, and there is a lot of attention being put on the health and well-being and nutrition of both countries, and for our children because children aren't meeting our core food groups, and what they should be eating either.

I mean awareness is the first thing isn’t it, being aware of what is a healthy diet.

In today’s program, we talked to nutritionist Stephanie about her background, her opinion on healthy diet, especially healthy breakfast choices.

In the next episode, we’re gonna continue our talk and see what other health tips we can get. Meanwhile, leave us a comment in the comment section, and share your ideas on healthy diet and fitness.

We will see you next time.

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